Clutter is more than just a messy environment; it is also a roadblock that keeps you from moving forward with your life. If you feel stuck on how to even begin to clean up, then you are in for an episode that will help you holistically declutter—physically, emotionally, and mentally. Rosie Zilinskas interviews none other than award-winning professional life, and end of life, organizer, certified life coach, and professional declutter’er, Julie Coraccio. Julie untangles the cloudy definition of clutter, breaking down how it manifests not only in our physical space but also within us. She talks about the cost of clutter in our physical space and what it does to our mental space and extends that to our spiritual and health clutters. Clutter is holistic; it affects everything in life. Tune in now to learn all things clutter and find a clearer state of mind as Julie helps you declutter your life from the inside out.
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We are going to be talking about all things clutter. We are going to define what clutter is. We are going to talk about the cost of the clutter in your physical space, but also what clutter does to your mental space. We are going to touch base on spiritual clutter and health clutter as well, and in order to do that, we have Julie Coraccio.
Julie Coraccio is an award-winning professional life and end-of-life organizer, certified life coach, and professional declutter. She’s passionate about supporting people in clearing clutter in all areas of their lives, getting organized, and becoming more mindful and aware. She is the host of the popular podcast, Clear Your Clutter Inside & Out, and is the author of fifteen books. Stay tuned for this decluttering conversation with Julie.
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Thank you so much for being here. Julie, I wanted to ask you the very basic question, what is the definition of clutter? I know we are going to talk about different types of clutter, but what is your definition of clutter?
First, thanks for having me on. I’m excited to be here and thanks for having a show that’s supporting women. My definition of clutter is a little bit different than most people’s. Clutter is anything that prevents you from creating the life you choose, deserve, and desire. I’m very purposeful with those words, but my hope with that is I want people to see the bigger picture. It’s more than a messy desk. It’s a roadblock to a promotion, for example.
I love that you said that because as you well know, and thank you for the shout-out there to the show, this show is geared towards women in the corporate world that are trying to advance in their careers, and they are finding that they are either sabotaging themselves in ways that they don’t know or maybe they have roadblocks.
I love that you started there because, in this day and age, we have so much information. I heard someone say the term infobesity. I was like, “That is a great term,” because obviously, we are so overwhelmed. I personally know that when my desk is not cleared up, I always feel like I have this weight. It’s so relatable to me. Tell me a little bit more about how you have come to that determination.
Statistics back me up if we use the messy desk example. Your colleagues are less likely to trust you. They are afraid. I can tell you from my own personal experience, I used to do development as a grant writer. I’d say, “I need this financial piece,” and she’s like, “I have it right here,” and I said, “I will see you in an hour when you find it.”
If you are on a deadline and your colleagues are trusting you less, it’s about seeing the bigger picture, and I did that fit through work. As I worked with people, I see that they would get this little narrow definition of clutter. For example, the inner affects the outer. As you clear your desk and you clear that physical clutter, you are releasing mental clutter. That’s going to help reduce your stress, anxiety, and worry, and so it’s all related. Seeing again how holistically when you clear clutter, it can change your life.
That is so impactful and powerful because knowing that when you clear your physical space around you, it clears, and I feel it. When I clear my desk and clean my office and stuff, I feel better, freer, and lighter. I can relate to that. One of the things that you and I touched base on when we last spoke is that clutter and it depends on the type of clutter that you are talking about, has that overwhelmed and anxious feeling. How would you describe those feelings coming about due to the clutter that you have around yourself?
Clutter can cause depression. Depression can cause clutter. You can get caught in that cycle. You are overwhelmed with clutter. You create more clutter in an attempt to reduce the overwhelm. Some people are going to get caught in that cycle. Where a lot of people get tripped up is if you were to walk into your office or your home, remember, your home life is affecting your professional life and vice versa, and it’s important. If you can’t find your keys to get to work in the morning, you are probably losing something that works. I want people to be aware of that. It’s important to understand that and that it’s affecting everything.
What are some of the things that you maybe recommend to people? We will start with the physical clutter. What are some of the pointers that you give to people instead of throwing it all out like the baby with the bath water type thing? What are a few tips that you can recommend to people to start decluttering that physical space?
The first thing is to pick one place to start. We talked a moment about being overwhelmed, and a lot of times that happens because, “I have got to declutter my house,” or I walk in my office and I have this huge office and I’m overwhelmed. Simply pick one area to start. Some people say to me, “I don’t know where to start.”
Here are some questions that you can ask. Do you have a deadline that needs to be met? You are having new shelves installed in your office. There’s a good chance that you want to start there. If you are not paying your mortgage on time, wherever that area is where you do your bills, you are going to want to clean that up. If something you are like, “Every time I walk into my bedroom, I can’t relax. It adds stress to me,” then that’s where you are going to want to start.
Those are a couple of things. Remember, 10 minutes a day equals over 60 hours in a year. You can accomplish a lot in 60 hours. “I don’t have time,” I hear that a lot and that’s not true. My first immediate response is, “How much time are you spending on social media?” People tell me don’t have any time in the world yet are spending hours on social media. Divert some of that time to decluttering and organizing
I will have to admit, my husband is better about keeping up with the clutter day-to-day. Sometimes I have an ottoman next to my bed, sometimes 2 or 3 days go by, and I’m like, “I can’t function if there is too much stuff around me.” I try to clean or clear it off every 2 or 3 days. He does it every single day. I’m like, “I wish I had that discipline.”
To your point, it only takes like 1 minute or 2. I was looking for some migraine medication. I opened up my personal because he has his cabinet with his all medications, supplements, and stuff, and I did mine. I hadn’t cleaned out my medicine cabinet for a very long time. I pulled everything out and I put all of the medications in the plastic bag because I’m going to dispose of them at the pharmacy and whatever.
I felt so much better, and it took maybe an hour because it was a lot of stuff. I’m trying to figure out, “Do I need this? Do I need that?” Once it was done, I was like, “I feel so much better. I can find stuff.” What are some things that you think women in the corporate world can relate to decluttering, whether it’s mental clutter because sometimes we also do have mental clutter? Let’s talk about the mental clutter when it comes to career development.
A lot of worry and anxiety, “How am I being perceived? Will I get that promotion?” Depending on the industry, it can be a lot more intense. My husband is a network engineer. I don’t understand that at all, but there are very few women in his field. I’m the one who tells me these stories. I’m like, “Here’s the woman’s perspective.” Mental clutter or always worrying and never shutting off your mind.
As small business owners, there’s always something for us to do and that translates to the corporate world as well. Those are a couple of examples of mental clutter. One of the things that I always suggest to people is to become present. The present moment is your point of power to change. If you said something in a meeting, you can’t take that back. If you are worried about your numbers in the future, the future is written in pencil. How can you become present so that you don’t worry? When you take action and look at it, then that tends to lessen that. Does that make sense?
“The present moment is your point of power to change.” – Julie Coraccio Click To Tweet
That makes a lot of sense. I find that too if I’m procrastinating on whatever, and then once I’m like, “I don’t want to do whatever,” and then I finally get it done, I’m like, “If I had that done that earlier, I would have saved myself all of that anxiety and mental like, ‘This is hanging over my head.’” That is very relatable.
I’m so glad that you give your husband the woman’s perspective because if it’s a situation where there are a lot of men and not as many women, we need those advocates. I’m glad that you are giving him the woman’s perspective. We also could have clutter in our relationships, and that could be work relationships or personal relationships. How does that clutter show up in those work relationships first?
With work, maybe it’s true. Maybe we are being gaslit or as women, especially if you are with aggressive men, I’m probably going to try to push past your boundaries or talk over your favorite term, mansplaining. Different things like that are going on and being aware of that. One of the things that I have learned to do is matched the energy.
I was excited you talked about how your space feels better because everything’s energy. The tension was so thick you could cut it with a knife. One of the things I have learned to do is matched the energy. I had someone scream at me, so I don’t like to scream, but I get loud. A lot of times, we don’t do that, and that stopped them on the track. If you physically move towards me, then I’m going to do something like that. It’s very important and you can do it in a professional good way, but that’s also about setting boundaries. It’s been my experience with women in the corporate world that there are a lot of people going to, especially men, going to try to roll.
I don’t want to sound like I’m siding with women only, but that’s important to have those boundaries and say, “This is how the relationship is going to be and this is what’s acceptable and what isn’t acceptable.” Remember people sense things. We are talking about energy. If you push your boundary a little bit and then it keeps, and then eventually you might wake up one day and be like, “I have totally taken on this other person’s job because I couldn’t say no. They kept pushing me past what I was comfortable with.”
That’s a perfect point that you made because a lot of times, women don’t have the comfort to say no. As a matter of fact, I did a short TikTok on the fact that I have noticed that women are constantly apologizing at work, “I’m sorry. Can I ask you a question?” My question was like, “Why are you apologizing for asking a question? Just ask the question.”
If you catch yourself apologizing all the time, try to halt that because that’s also mental clutter. It’s mental clutter in the fact that it shows maybe that you don’t have enough confidence that you can ask a question without apologizing. I also know that when women are trying to say no to whatever, whether it’s an appointment or an assignment, they always have to list out all the reasons, and men don’t do that. Men just, “No, sorry. I can’t do it. I can’t make the meeting,” for example. They don’t feel like they need to explain themselves. Why do you think women feel the need to explain ourselves for those reasons that I described?
I feel we are either coming from love or we are coming from fear. To me, that’s what it boils down to, but for me, fear includes feeling not good enough, feeling not worthy and not feeling loved, and that’s with all relationships. If I feel good enough, then I don’t have to explain. I also think there is societal conditioning going on with that as well. It’s not about that, but like, “I can’t take up space.”
I want women to think about their physicality. Do you find yourself scrunching your shoulders and moving back or are you open, or trying to make yourself small? Look at that because that’s one of those things you are probably not conscious of, aware of, and are doing because we are taught to play small. Women sometimes amaze me that, “I didn’t have anyone help me. I’m not going to give someone else a hand up.” I wish that we could completely switch that mentality and support one another, but think about your physicality and how you are with that.
I heard a motivational speaker years ago. Women that don’t help other women should go to hell. Now I want to go back to something that you said and I want to explain the term. You said sometimes men can gaslight or people, in general, can gaslight other people, but men are notorious for gaslighting women. Can you explain that term, please?
Some examples would be this is happening to me right now. There were rules for me. They will make you think you are crazy. “They didn’t say that.” Even though you have got a recording of the meeting. “You are too sensitive. You are overemotional.” We get that a lot, especially in the corporate world. It’s like making you think, “Did I remember incorrectly?” You’re second-guessing yourself. When it’s not, they are trying to manipulate you and have you do what they want. Is that a good enough explanation?
That is a good enough explanation. The question that comes to my mind is, are these people, that are the gas lighters, aware that they are doing it or do they just have a narcissistic personality? That’s always a question that I wonder because how is it that you are trying to turn the situation around on me and make me responsible for your actions?
It’s a combination of both. I moved back to my hometown. I have been thinking about this a lot because I’m like, “Is this a generational thing or is it everyone in my hometown?” I have this new next-door neighbor that moved in. He was the one that screamed at me, and I screamed and I said, “I’m not going to allow you to talk to me this way,” and I hung up the phone.
This is someone who’s in his 70s, and people will say things behind him, but will never confront him. I was like, “You can’t treat me that way,” and that was shocking. If you have done something for 50 or 60 years, no one ever calls you out on it. I also think with older people, you didn’t have Oprah. You get set in your ways. You learn to behave, and if people don’t stop it and say, “Hey,” then you might not be aware of it. Then other people are absolutely aware it’s a narcissist thing going on and that’s how they operate, but so many times, we will complain behind the back. We won’t confront and do anything about it so this bad behavior continues.
That applies to a work relationship. I had a client say once that she was having a very tough time with the manager and once she expressed to the manager how she was being made ill when he addressed her, he was like, “I’m so sorry because I didn’t realize that I was doing that.” A lot of times, it’s up to us to very politely bring up the situation or the conversation.
That’s one of the other things that clutter does. When you have a push-pull relationship and you are afraid to have that difficult conversation, that also shows up as clutter in your head because it’s weighing on your mind. Once you have the conversation, it might not be as bad. To your point, you feel that fear to have that slight confrontation and say, “You can’t treat me that way. I feel that you are disrespecting me when you do X, Y, or Z.” The bottom line is that we have to draw the courage to have those conversations to clear that clutter.
We have this misconception that setting a boundary needs to be harsh, and that needs to be negative, and I need to come out like that. Not all. “I feel disrespected. You said this to me and I feel this. Please don’t do it again.” I wasn’t screaming out in your face, but I clearly stated this is what happened and this is how I feel. It doesn’t have to be this big production. Now I know. For me, I used to be a doormat. The first time you set that boundary, it’s going to be super hard, but the more you do it, the easier it becomes.
“The first time you set that boundary is going to be super hard, but the more you do it, the easier it becomes.” – Julie Coraccio Click To Tweet
I am remarried. We had our seventh anniversary. When I got married to my husband, my kids were 17 and 15 at the time. The blending of a family is not easy. One day, things were havoc. I sprung into each of my kids’ rooms and I was like, “This and this.” I went to my husband and I said, “This and this.” It wasn’t anything terrible. It was like, “We need to do whatever we were dealing with at the time.” It was like a weight off my mind. They knew where I was coming from and it improved things. To your point, it doesn’t always have to be this big, massive fight or anything. It could be a simple conversation of, “This is how I feel.”
One of the things that especially with young people is communication. It’s like, “How do I do that?” They do everything through text. It’s so important for us to have that vulnerability of, “I need to have a conversation with you and then you can move on your merry way from there.” I do know that there are a couple of other different types of clutter. We have spiritual clutter and we also have health clutter. Can you tell me a little bit about each of those?
Spiritual clutter, and again, this is my definition and someone might put it somewhere else, but not being able to forgive. Talk about taking up faith in your mind. It’s not being able to forgive, not having gratitude, and not following your passion. If being in corporate life isn’t what you want, then kick it to the curb and become an artist. It’s about being in touch with your soul. Those are a couple of examples.
For health clutter, it’s not eating well, it’s not exercising, and it’s not taking care of yourself. I’m a huge believer in having a mindfulness practice. That can be mowing the lawn for you. For my friend, it’s listening to classical music, but then again, it’s related. If you have physical clutter, you might have mouse droppings. They are all the same, and that’s going to affect the air that you breathe. I want to hit home to people how everything affects it all and clutter is holistic.
I have to admit that I’m very surprised that you didn’t mention the word God or religion in the spiritual clutter, which is nice. You can do whatever, but the spiritual clutter, and not having gratitude is huge. Not being able to forgive is tremendous because I always say forgiveness is for you, not necessarily for the other person. When you don’t forgive and you are angry and mad, that’s not good for your health. That’s not good for your body, for your mind, and for your soul.
When you forgive somebody, in my opinion, it’s freeing yourself from all of that mental and spiritual clutter. You are able to release it and let it go and then move on to bigger and better things. In the movies, you always see these people that are angry. You forgave all that. You would have a completely different life.
With the health clutter too. It’s you know you shouldn’t be eating that but you are eating it anyway and you are like, “Who cares?” Let’s talk a little bit about the health clutter because that’s something that everybody can relate to. What are some things that you generally start with when you have somebody that’s dealing with health clutter?
There’s a statistic that 80% of why we are in the hospital is stress-related. Many diseases are happening because we are stressed out. I look at everything, “How often are you sitting at your desk? Are you sitting eight hours a day not moving? What’s your indoor pollution like? What cleaners are you using?” They talk about toxins and everyday household items. I use green cleaners. That’s one thing I have been doing for years. “What are you eating? What are your health habits?”
Meditation, to me, is part of the health thing. What are you doing to calm your mind? It all starts in our mental state like, “I’m stressed out.” The body is not stressed out. It’s stressed out because your mind says, “I’m stressed out and I’m upset about that.” Do you go to the dentist twice a year? Do you have your eye appointments if you need new glasses? It’s looking at all of those elements and the overall picture of health.
I want to make sure that we talk about your story. How did you get to where you are now? How did you become a professional declutterer? I know you have a lot of books that you have written and you’re award-winning. Tell me a little bit about how you got to where you are and be an expert declutterer.
It started when my friends were like, “You are uptight. Help me get organized.” Before I even had the business, I was organizing my friends when I lived in Los Angeles. I moved to Raleigh, and I had a job where I was Director of Development. The day I started, I’m like, “This place is crazy.” The person that they had temping was like, “This place is nuts.” I was like, “I have moved to Raleigh. I don’t know anyone. I’m in this job, so I’m going to create a business. What can I do?”
I was at that other job for thirteen months. I spent the entire time creating a business. I then had this a-ha moment. My business at the beginning was called Healing Through Organization. I never recommend changing your name. It’s a real pain in the butt, but I had this a-ha moment. I was working with a client and she said, “Can we talk before we do anything?”
I usually work in four-hour blocks. We spent three hours talking. In that last hour, did we blam through stuff. We were able to declutter like it was nobody’s business. That was an a-ha moment. It’s more about the clutter. In the meantime, I had a show called Reawaken Your Brilliance, which I ended up taking as my business name.
I’d interview all these body mind and spirit experts, and they’d use me as a Guinea pig. They’d say, “Read my book. We are going to do these exercises.” It’s about clearing a lot of spiritual clutter for me and more. I was like, “We can organize anything, but let’s focus more on the decluttering,” and then taking that holistic view and seeing as people would face perhaps stressful events, how they were able to release clutter afterward. That’s how it started for me.
It’s one of those situations where you took your core genius, which is you like to organize things, and you turned it into Reawaken Your Brilliance. How did you come up with that name? I love that name.
I was starting this internet TV show. I went to the producer’s house and he’s like, “Come on. Let’s get started.” I’m like, “I don’t have a name.” Thrive kept coming up, and then I googled, and I’m like, “Some bazillion things are named Thrive.” I sat down to meditate. This is one of the reasons why I’m a huge believer in this and it’s like Reawaken Your Brilliance popped into my head. We have those quiet moments that sometimes can be in the bathtub or the shower or meditating. That opens it up to us to receive messages from whatever your viewpoint is from that intuitive space.
Meditation is more and more coming to the light that it’s so important. We did a whole course at work. There’s a woman that has this course on being able to talk about all the different things that could help people, and it’s a free course. It’s Yale. She’s doing a pun of good by letting people know. She walks through the whole process of becoming holistic and aware. It’s free and wonderful. She talks about meditation and how important it is. People think that you have to sit there for an hour and not think about anything.
It’s sitting quietly for 5 minutes or even for 1 minute to start. It’s like anything. You have to practice and then you have to get good at it. I can sit for ten minutes comfortably and not necessarily clear my mind but try to focus. If a thought comes in and out, I’m like, “Don’t think about that.” Keep trying to breathe. What meditation do you practice?
It’s something called Transcendental Meditation. I don’t know if I call it way up there, but I did that when I was a nanny and did the whole thing. I have had times where I have meditated for over an hour and it’s felt like a minute has passed. When you have those moments, you are like, “That’s why I want to keep doing that.” As I mentioned, mowing the grass is meditative for me. My friend listens to classical music. Don’t think. As you said, you have to sit down and do something specific. If that allows your mind to be open and released, then have at it.
Another thing that I do is I take a walk and I don’t listen to a podcast or whatever. I just, “What am thinking?” I look around. I observe and try to be present at the moment. That’s huge. This has been such a great conversation. I was wondering if maybe you could provide us with two actionable tips that a woman in the corporate world can do that will help her either think about her career or advance in her career or something to that effect.
I’m going to suggest two things. I’m a fan of writing things down. Whether I’m old school, I have got a written plan, or I haven’t moved tech completely. I encourage you. I want people to write down the real impact of clutter on your life. I mentioned that the cluttered desk is a roadblock to a promotion, and so I want people to make that connection.
What is clutter costing you? You can’t put a price tag on peace of mind. It’s worth everything. Is it costing you time? Is it costing you an argument in your relationship? Understanding and writing down, “What’s the impact? What will I gain and what is it costing me?” When you are like, “I don’t want to clean out my closet or clean off my desk,” then you have that little piece of paper to look for.
“You can't put a price tag on peace of mind. It's worth everything.” – Julie Coraccio Click To Tweet
The other thing that I’m going to suggest is that you dig deeper behind the why. Sometimes we don’t have to know, but it’s like, “Why do I have these relationships?” Remember, everything is energy. If you have a relationship where you are being gaslit, I want you to look back on your life and see, “Has that happened before?”
Until we learn that lesson and clear that clutter, it’s going to keep coming around for us to complete it and move forward. Get to the why behind your clutter. Why do I act like this? Why do I do this? Why am I not afraid to let go of this dusty box that’s been boxed up for twenty years, even though both my parents have passed? What’s the why behind that? Those are the two things that I suggest for people to start decluttering their life.
The why is so powerful because when you start trying to understand why you do something or why you are afraid to speak up in your relationship, or whether it’s with your manager or your partner, then you are right. You are going to keep doing it. What do they say? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result. That’s a good way to put it because once you understand what you are doing, and a lot of times, more often than not, it always does go back to something that happened in your childhood.
The majority that I have found, that’s been my experience for sure.
One more thing before I let you go. Is there a story that you can tell us about a client that you were able to help declutter, whether it’s their mental clutter or their physical space?
I’m trying to think more corporate, but a lot of the stuff has more to do with home. I’m going to share this because this was an in-home business. I had a client and she had a very critical mother-in-law. Nothing was ever good enough. She’d come in and complain about how the space was cluttered. She was also a very creative woman.
She had tons like wanted to make soap, wanted to make greeting cards. This was super creative. We did a whole home declutter. We ended up decluttering her office, and her bonus room, and what I said is, “I want you to pick three things that you want to focus on right now. You want to do soap making in the future. Trust that you will get what you need when you need it, and you can attempt that then, but you can’t do everything. We only have so much time in a day.”
That helped her focus on her business, and she’s like, “The greeting cards. I want to make some money on this. It’s a good way to express my creativity,” but it also improved her relationship with her mother-in-law. Not only would she not criticize her, but she was able to say, “I’m overwhelmed. Will you come to watch the kids? I need you to support me instead of always being critical.” It helped her professionally and personally.
That’s a perfect way to end this because the woman in corporate, especially if you still have little kids at home, you are trying to do it all. During the pandemic, it was determined that women picked up 50% of the responsibilities for both the house and the kids, and men kept doing their normal routines.
When you start asking for help, that’s also another way to declutter your mental stress and your anxiety because we can’t do it all. More and more, the whole term that’s called work-life balance is a myth. You can’t balance it because there is no way to balance it. You either focus on one thing or another thing. You try to ask for help both at work and at home. That’s a perfect story to leave that. Any final words before we close?
Thank you for having me. I want everyone to know, remember, you are good enough. You are worthy and loved. You are stronger than you give yourself credit for. Climb and bust those glass ceilings at work.
Sounds cool. Thank you so much.
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I got a couple of good takeaways from Julie. First of all, the physical clutter could be costing you a promotion. If someone is coming into your office at work and they see that your desk is completely messy, that might prevent them from keeping you in mind for promotion. The second thing that I thought was interesting was the spiritual clutter. The fact that you may not keep gratitude in mind or that you may not be forgiving someone that wronged you. If you keep that anger, that’s going to cost you your own peace of mind and it could also impact your health.
Julie leaves us with two great tips. Tip 1) She says, “Write down the real impact of the clutter in your life.” What is clutter costing you? Is it costing you a promotion? Is it costing you peace of mind? Tip 2) She says, “Dig deeper behind the why.” Why are you keeping a messy desk? Why is it that you are keeping that clutter around? Is clutter maybe impacting your relationship, and how is it impacting your relationship? For example, if someone is gaslighting you constantly and you don’t say anything or say, “That behavior is not acceptable,” that’s emotional clutter. Another thing is, “Why do I think and act this way?” It’s going to be a little bit of reflection, but there’s always a why.
Last but not least, I want you to go to my website and take the free quiz. The free quiz will also give you an inkling of how you may be sabotaging your career development. There are three ways that you could be sabotaging it, and the quiz is a free quiz. It’s less than three minutes, and it will give you a little bit of insight into how you may be sabotaging, and it will give you some good free resources as well. With that, remember to be brave, be bold, and take action.
Julie Coraccio is an award-winning professional life, and end of life, organizer, certified life coach, and professional declutter’er. She is passionate about supporting people in clearing clutter in all areas of their lives; getting organized; and becoming more mindful and aware. She hosts the popular podcast, Clear Your Clutter Inside & Out and is the author of 15 books.
